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[英国中部BMI(已退出)] 实在受不了老外们对中国人微词了 在FT上纠正一下他们

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美味培根 发表在  2010-4-28 12:25:52  | 显示全部楼层 | 阅读模式
本帖最后由 美味培根 于 2010-4-28 12:32 编辑

最近FT上很多人云亦云的老外,对中国人颇有微词。 说什么5美元就可以在北京Super8买假的住宿,什么一般人随随便便就可以积累30万的bmi积分。这个没依据的胡扯让很多老外对中国人有很多看法。觉得是义务去纠正一下他们,所以注册了账户不厌其烦的写了个长篇大论给他们:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/bmi-diamond-club/1048122-earn-5000-bmi-miles-per-stay-wyndham-hotel-group-37.html#post13856465

really great news for the long awaited points.

however as a Chinese mainly living in mainland China, i have to beg all you guys' pardon to confront some of the comment on "Chinese mattress runners" "chinese mafia" or "fraudulently booked rooms"

i've scanned through the orginal post and located where all these grudge comes from, some guy claims that in China "Many netizens reported their records with the majority easily passed 300,000miles. Many super 8 hotels in China are now selling those fake "stays" at around 5USD per day."

5USD per day? this is too much of a stretch. though Super8 in China is somehow dirt cheap, the lowest eligible rate we can get still sits around USD20. Plus for public security reasons, hotels in beijing or shanghai are under strict scrutiny of police force, which means without producing eligible ID card and get it scanned for record, nobody can directly pay for any rooms. Under this circumstance, to benefit from this promotion, average chinese people have to utilize all his family memebers (parents, siblings if any) to have some hotel stay. as a frequent flyer, among all my sphere to friends who participated in this promotion, the biggest one is normally 5 family members X 22k miles = 110k miles which is very very RARE. I don't know on what ground that "majority easily passed 300,000miles" comes from.

of course we can never rule out the possibilities of some "sneaky one" taking advantage of some "loopholes" and did abuse the T&C. but average Chinese people will never be able to do that, considering the fact that hotel will explicitly ask for elegibile ID card being presented by the guests himself at c/i. also let's do some maths, provided USD5 fake stay offer does exist, will hotel front dest manager take the risk for the benefit? at that rate, even 100 rooms can only generate revenue equivalent of about normal 20 rooms. however hotel will have to produce staying record of those rooms for the promotion points to be credited to relevant account. any front manager won't put their job and hotel fate at stake for this level of short term benefit in the face of possible identity checks by the police.

last thing i have to agree with some of the previous post about "chinese punter" will definitely have some fun experience with the ICC. Indeed Chinese native possesses that level of English is really rare. for the people who didn't have this language proficiency, why go through all the pains to amass the points in the 1st place? for the people who did have all these proficiency and knowledge, they normally have very decent job and it would be really some disgrace and pain to gain some dishonest profit from "selling the amassed points to the travel agency"

most of Chinese who participates in this promotion will be standing at the same ground with most of you guys. and we welcome WH or BD checks in any forms.
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flyworld 发表于 2010-4-28 12:31:44  | 显示全部楼层
分析透彻, 有礼有节。 赞一个!
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随柳风 发表于 2010-4-28 12:34:46  | 显示全部楼层
其实,FT上关于国人的这些说法虽言过其实,不过,基本还没有进入乱编的地步,确实反映了某些国人的行为和心态。
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美味培根 发表于 2010-4-28 12:37:00  | 显示全部楼层
谢谢flyworlddream

我觉得言过其实的 就应该去纠正
国人在外国人眼里的形象 必须一点一滴呵护 用每个机会去争取 才能真正建立起来。
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Power of K.

xavierkuai 发表于 2010-4-28 12:57:58  | 显示全部楼层
说的还不错
不用太生气。消消气!

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美味培根 发表于 2010-4-28 13:02:44  | 显示全部楼层
呵呵 谢谢随总 和LS的总
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starshine 发表于 2010-4-28 13:09:38  | 显示全部楼层
呵呵 写的很不错 辛苦了~·
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W 发表于 2010-4-28 13:16:16  | 显示全部楼层
支持一下。。。
各种D各种P,都是浮云。

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lancelot610 发表于 2010-4-28 13:16:22  | 显示全部楼层
楼主的英文真是不错。

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wheatcat 发表于 2010-4-28 13:18:01  | 显示全部楼层
回复 3# 随柳风

第一次听到那个USD5的fake stay,就觉得这个不太可信
现在更是觉得编造这个消息的人居心实在险恶

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Power of K.

xavierkuai 发表于 2010-4-28 13:19:53  | 显示全部楼层
就是就是 这个USD 5从来都没有听说过嘛。。。

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Power of K.

xavierkuai 发表于 2010-4-28 13:20:29  | 显示全部楼层
回复 6# 美味培根


    谢谢收到了。。但俺不是怎么“总”。。哈哈

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freepoint 发表于 2010-4-28 13:26:10  | 显示全部楼层
感谢你用心的写了帖子说明,不过可能是老外嫉妒中国的rate太便宜了,咱们光明正大的参加活动,怕啥。
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jonathonmu 发表于 2010-4-28 13:34:43  | 显示全部楼层
支持!
支持!

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美味培根 发表于 2010-4-28 13:51:30  | 显示全部楼层
哇 好多分! 谢谢各位加分!

其实有时候会在公正和民族主义间纠结
不过每次一听到外国人说起中国人 语气里带的蔑视
我就想跳出来
虽然也知道 being defensive不是最好的战略
不过就是忍不住
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Show 发表于 2010-4-28 15:38:37  | 显示全部楼层
我靠,这英文不是一般的强啊,真猛

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macmini 发表于 2010-4-28 16:02:51  | 显示全部楼层
回复 15# 美味培根

民族主义是很恐怖的东西,但是该说的时候也要说,要随时随地的打压西方人莫名其妙的优越感,让他们感到原来中国人可以比他们更优秀

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macmini 发表于 2010-4-28 16:12:25  | 显示全部楼层
我非常赞同lz的观点,你可以说这个中国人不好,这个美国人不好,但是要尽量避免说中国人不好,或者美国人不好这样的话,针对的对象应该避免歧视。当然我自己在对待意大利人的问题上,也是具有歧视,实在是被逼的。。。已经有人对lz做了回复了,大家可以去看看,呵呵。

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lancelot610 发表于 2010-4-28 16:40:11  | 显示全部楼层
FT上某个英国人给楼主的回复:

First of all, welcome to FT mapitout

You are absolutely right that this shouldn't be aimed in the direction of any one country or group of people. The issue was down to a few properties deciding they were willing to sell fake stays to a limited number of people who wanted to buy stays in bulk. These properties were certainly not limited to China and I believe that a few properties in the US were doing the same as well and who knows where else may have been involved?

Again, any potential issue wouldn't be with a hotel selling an individual an extra stay or two without staying. I believe there were potentially some organised people (from where or who I have no idea) who were buying large multiples of stays and trying to allocate them to multiple accounts set up into family accounts, presumably with the aim of then profiting from selling flights using the miles or mileage trading.

回复是积极可观的。看来楼主的努力有了效果

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tonyouyang 发表于 2010-4-28 19:56:00  | 显示全部楼层
支持一下LZ。  说得很有理。

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