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[美国联合UA] 流言:关于UA/CO 合并后Mileage Plus常飞计划2012

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ariesleo 发表在  2011-8-12 21:04:46  | 显示全部楼层 | 阅读模式

据内线人士爆料,目前对于常飞计划的一些潜在改动方向。实话说,不是那么乐观~
当然这些阴谋/阳谋都还在酝酿中,具体2012两家常飞计划合并后的细节还没有人能说出100%来。
大家看看目前的流言,心理有个准备就好~

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This information comes from a reliable source under the condition of anonymity, so take it for what it’s worth. According to my source, below are the terms that United is considering for the combined Mileage Plus program in 2012.

Let’s start with the good news (and trust me, there’s not a whole lot of it for most of us).

Class of service bonuses:

Class of service bonuses for full fare tickets and paid premium cabin tickets will go up substantially, ranging anywhere from 125% for Y, B, and M fares, to 250% for F and A fares.

And now the bad news (get some popcorn, folks):

Status level names and qualification criteria:

Premier Silver:
(a) 25,000 elite qualifying miles AND $2,000 revenue AND 4 United segments,
OR
(b) 30 elite qualifying segments AND $2,000 revenue AND 4 United segments,
OR
(c) $5,000 revenue AND 4 United segments

Premier Gold:
(a) 50,000 elite qualifying miles AND $4,000 revenue AND 4 United segments,
OR
(b) 60 elite qualifying segments AND $4,000 revenue AND 4 United segments,
OR
(c) $10,000 revenue AND 4 United segments

Premier Platinum:
(a) 75,000 elite qualifying miles AND $6,000 revenue AND 4 United segments,
OR
(b) 90 elite qualifying segments AND $6,000 revenue AND 4 United segments,
OR
(c) $15,000 revenue AND 4 United segments

Premier Diamond:
(a) 100,000 elite qualifying miles AND $8,000 revenue AND 4 United segments,
OR
(b) 120 elite qualifying segments AND $8,000 revenue AND 4 United segments,
OR
(c) $20,000 revenue AND 4 United segments

Change in status benefits:

Premier Silver:
– Economy Plus can only be selected at time of check-in
– Only one free checked bag weighing up to 50 pounds per passenger on reservation
– Upgrade window goes from 48 hours to 24 hours before departure

Premier Gold:
– Mileage bonus goes from 100% to 50%
– Upgrade window goes from 72 hours to 48 hours before departure

Premier Platinum:
– Mileage bonus goes from 100% to 75%
– Upgrade window remains 72 hours before departure
– M fares no longer offer instant upgrades for Platinum members

Premier Diamond:
– Upgrade window goes from 100 hours to 96 hours before departure

Change in upgrade priority:

I’ll leave the exact details for another time, though the idea is that with the exception of Global Services members, full fare tickets clear first (so a Silver on a full fare ticket outranks a Diamond on a lower fare) and mileage upgrades with co-pays outrank systemwide/confirmed regional upgrades, which outrank complimentary upgrades. With this, there’s a possibility that fare restrictions will be eliminated on systemwide upgrades.

If the above were to be implemented, suffice it to say this would be a truly radical change. I suppose this would be an attempt to “fire” their most unprofitable customers. I’m guessing 80%+ of elites at each status level already requalify using the criteria above, though for the rest of us, well, that would be the end.

What bothers me about this more than anything, though, is that they’re simultaneously making it much harder to qualify for status unless you usually travel on full fare tickets, while substantially reducing elite benefits. The Gold mileage bonus going from 100% to 50%? Ouch! Silvers not being able to select Economy Plus seats at the time of booking? Ouch! Prioritizing upgrades with miles and co-pays over systemwide upgrades? Ouch!

With these changes United would be making sure that those at each status level are actually not only United’s most loyal customers, but also United’s most profitable customers. For that reason it wouldn’t make sense to me to prioritize upgrades from someone with lower status that’s on a full fare ticket ahead of a higher status passenger on a lower fare. I guess it just follows the general trend of judging a customer’s value to the company based on each individual transaction as opposed to their overall profitability/business/loyalty over years.

It’ll be interesting to see how much of this, if any, comes true. Again, I’m not saying this will be United’s 2012 program, so don’t panic… yet.

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enoughtoo 发表于 2011-8-12 21:14:47  | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 enoughtoo 于 2011-8-12 14:15 编辑

主要就是保级需要4个UA的航段了嘛,base不在美国或者不定期去美国出差的TX就可以不想了
已有1人评分威望 理由
jiangm + 9 那边按错数字了,这边补上

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miceking 发表于 2011-8-12 21:44:40  | 显示全部楼层
升舱也得看票价了
OZ *G,TK *G, Accor A+P, SPG G

蓝钻会员 鲜花(23)

ariesleo 发表于 2011-8-12 22:35:19  | 显示全部楼层
enoughtoo 发表于 2011-8-12 21:14
主要就是保级需要4个UA的航段了嘛,base不在美国或者不定期去美国出差的TX就可以不想了


Sliver奖励里程25%没了,Gold 奖励里程从100% 降到50%,Platinum从100%降到75%

升舱看票价。谁高谁在前。

Sliver买票只能免费托运一个行李,不再是两个。

白金会员 鲜花(1)

VinnieXu 发表于 2011-8-12 23:25:50  | 显示全部楼层
誠心希望這不是真的......

白金会员 鲜花(7)

feyisgod 发表于 2011-8-13 01:20:13  | 显示全部楼层
如果是这样的话,真的变差太多了啊,得转投别家了看来....不过这个会从2012开始实行还是2013.按道理2012应该按照现在公布的实行吧,不然难道不算违约?

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James.cd 发表于 2011-8-13 01:40:57  | 显示全部楼层
真是这样的话。。。UA/CO里程继续升值,但Elite福利明显变差了
飞不到elite或者无所谓贵宾会员的把里程继续放他家是好事
靠他家的SA gold就累了。。。

顺便问下那个Elite资格里有的$XXX revenue是什么意思?

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羊毛在哪里呀羊毛在哪里

supermcse 发表于 2011-8-13 02:11:00  | 显示全部楼层
Stanislas 发表于 2011-8-13 02:40
真是这样的话。。。UA/CO里程继续升值,但Elite福利明显变差了
飞不到elite或者无所谓贵宾会员的把里程继续 ...

我的理解是至少要在他家消费XXX这么多钱吧

钻石会员 鲜花(9)

huachi 发表于 2011-8-13 02:39:05  | 显示全部楼层
如果真这样我就转投汉莎了,怎么着也飞个白金出来!不过汉莎的行李rule太差劲了……
United 1P; CA G; AF G; MU G; Hilton G; IHG P; A-Club P

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jemand 发表于 2011-8-13 04:42:51  | 显示全部楼层
huachi 发表于 2011-8-13 02:39
如果真这样我就转投汉莎了,怎么着也飞个白金出来!不过汉莎的行李rule太差劲了……

本来想学老蔡从汉莎转UA的,现在还是留在LH吧

LH的行李有什么不好?  我准备国庆的时候带32*4的行李

黑钻会员 鲜花(158)

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Hellohello1226 发表于 2011-8-13 07:34:18  | 显示全部楼层
我好像不太受影响,应该给ua不只8000usd一年。以后还要统计票价了。不过我要保delta先了。ua太事儿了。要不然match AA了,以后保不了,咱们就aa+delta!刚觉得co里程好用他就没了,刚够100段,他改120段了,终于达到120段,他又加票价了,不知道达到他票价他又出来什么,终于明白good old day!
Ua 1k, delta d, aa ep, hu g, sk g Ihg ra, mr p, hh d, Hyatt d, spg p, Accor p, club carlson g

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untamed 发表于 2011-8-13 08:31:37  | 显示全部楼层
如果这样俺就彻底和it说bye bye了。
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lukelwang + 5 淡定

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myif 发表于 2011-8-13 08:58:41  | 显示全部楼层
enoughtoo 发表于 2011-8-12 21:14
主要就是保级需要4个UA的航段了嘛,base不在美国或者不定期去美国出差的TX就可以不想了

难度有,但是UA有很多眼点权航段,类似NRT-BKK之类的,弄四个航段问题不会太大

白金会员 鲜花(2)

songzm 发表于 2011-8-13 14:14:53  | 显示全部楼层
miceking 发表于 2011-8-12 21:44
升舱也得看票价了

这个应该是原来CO的做法,原来的CO会在5天的升舱窗口优先升没有在买票时确认升舱的全价票(白金卡Y B M算全价,其他级别只有Y B算全价)高级会员,然后才是其他票价的白金卡
UA*G(Premier 1K) SPG Gold
2011 EQM:76540  EQP:24.5 EUA(CO):0/1 UDU(UA):5/7 MileageUpgrade:3/3
2012 PQM: 103903 PQS:43 CPU: 5/9 RPU:6/6 MileageUpgrade:0/0 Op-Up:1

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huachi 发表于 2011-8-13 17:04:25  | 显示全部楼层
jemand 发表于 2011-8-13 04:42
本来想学老蔡从汉莎转UA的,现在还是留在LH吧

LH的行李有什么不好?  我准备国庆的时候带32*4的行李

汉莎不是都变成23*3了吗?而且如果是*A的经济舱只能是23*2...
United 1P; CA G; AF G; MU G; Hilton G; IHG P; A-Club P

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jemand 发表于 2011-8-13 17:09:16  | 显示全部楼层
huachi 发表于 2011-8-13 17:04
汉莎不是都变成23*3了吗?而且如果是*A的经济舱只能是23*2...

经济舱原来计重制的时候,*G是40kg,华人旅行社的部分票和学生票才是 30+20=50 kg, 现在46kg,差别不大吧

具体的行李规则看我原来的帖子 http://www.flyertea.com/thread-53846-1-1.html

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huachi 发表于 2011-8-13 17:19:07  | 显示全部楼层
jemand 发表于 2011-8-13 17:09
经济舱原来计重制的时候,*G是40kg,华人旅行社的部分票和学生票才是 30+20=50 kg, 现在46kg,差别不大吧
...

对呀,我的意思是说跟UA和CO比还是少很多,UA和CO的话,*G坐经济舱是32KGX3
United 1P; CA G; AF G; MU G; Hilton G; IHG P; A-Club P

白金会员 鲜花(1)

cunningmashi 发表于 2011-8-14 12:21:14  | 显示全部楼层
天啊。 。这个也差别太大了吧, 如果是这样的话我肯定转到其他家了。 当时积分到他们家也主要是那个100% 的bonus on gold..

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ariesleo 发表于 2011-8-17 04:16:08  | 显示全部楼层
有意思的来了,计划改变的条款泄露后,UA高层对于“泄密事件”相当“震怒”。 然后最近又流言出来是这一切都是UA做的局。故意让内部人士泄露给消息灵通的人士,让他们代为宣传。一个是降低成本,另外一个是给公众较长的适应期。真是煞费苦心呀!哈哈~~

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idoloveyou 发表于 2011-8-17 12:16:19  | 显示全部楼层
这个对于不常在美国飞的人来说,真的有点难度了

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