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milaohu 2011-6-16 21:08:25  | 显示全部楼层 | 阅读模式
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Maximizing Stopovers, Transfers and Open Jaw Ticketing on US Airways Awards
by The Points Guy on June 16, 2011 · 1 comment

  
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(This post is focused on maximizing US Airways awards. Future posts will  focus on American, Delta, United/Continental, Air Canada and  British Airways. If you have any other suggestions, feel free to comment  below or email me).
US Airways is a Star Alliance member, which means you can redeem your miles on all 26 other Star Alliance carriers, plus Bahamasair, Royal Jordanian Airlines, Hawaiian Airlines, Virgin Atlantic, Jet Airways and Qatar.
Things to know before you get started:
  • Don’t bother with usairways.com. Star Alliance and partner awards must be booked by calling  800-428-4322.
  • Because partner awards can not be booked online, you don’t have to pay the $30 phone booking fee, but you will get hit with other fees and taxes. US Airways is in the middle of the road with how much they charge for awards. They also have an annoying “processing” fee ($25 for domestic tickets, $35 for  tickets to Mexico/the Caribbean and  $50 for tickets to Hawaii, Europe,  the Middle East and South America).
  • Award levels are subject to change until the award ticket is issued.
  • Wait-listing for award travel is not permitted.
  • You can put awards on hold while you wait for miles to post, though some agents might get cranky about this, but they will do it when push comes to shove.
  • A non-refundable quick ticketing fee of $75 applies to all award reservations purchased within 14 days of travel.
  • Per usairways.com, “Award travel is permitted  when the distance in one direction does not exceed the maximum mileage  allowed between the origin and destination. Certain itineraries are  subject to mileage restrictions. Travel from North America to Europe is  not allowed via Asia. Travel between Europe and Japan/North Asia/South  Asia/Australia/New Zealand is not permitted via North America.” This rule has been broken many times by savvy Flyertalkers.
  • The “maximum mileage allowed” referenced above is rarely enforced by phone agents.
  • You can have one stopover or an open jaw (flying into one city and home from another).
  • You cannot combine Star Alliance and non-Star alliance partners on an award. For example you cannot fly Virgin Atlantic to London and then Continental home.
  • Stopovers can only be in Star Alliance hubs and you must be flying that carrier’s hub. For example, you can only stop in Frankfurt if you are flying into Frankfurt on Lufthansa.
  • For your convenience here is a list of Star Alliance hubs per staralliance.com as of 6/16/11.
    US Airways: Charlotte, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Washington D.C
    a) Adria: Ljubljana, Pristina
    b) Aegean: Athens, Thessaloniki
    c) Air Canada: Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver and Calgary
    d) Air China: Beijing, Chengdu,Shanghai
    e) Air New Zealand: Auckland, Los Angeles, Hong Kong
    f) ANA: Tokyo (Haneda, Narita)
    g) Asiana: Incheon, Seoul
    h) Austrian: Vienna
    i) Blue1: Helsinki
    j) bmi: London Heathrow
    k) Brussels: Brussels
    l) Continental: New York/Newark, Houston, Cleveland and Guam
    m) Croatia: Zagreb
    n) Egypt Air: Cairo
    o) LOT: Warsaw
    p) Lufthansa: Frankfurt, Munich
    q) SAS: Copenhagen, Oslo, Stockholm
    r) Singapore: Singapore Changi
    s) South African: Johannesburg
    t) Spanair: Barcelona, Madrid
    u) Swiss: Zurich, Geneva, Basel
    v) TAM: Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro and Brasilia
    w) TAP: Lisbon, Porto
    x) Thai: Bangkok, Chiang Mai, Phuket, Hat Yai
    y) Turkish: Istanbul, Ankara
    z) United: Chicago, Denver, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Washington D.C.
  • Once you build an itinerary, the phone agent will send it off to a “rate desk” which will validate it and ticket. This can take up to an hour, but usually less.
  • To find out which Star Alliance partners fly to which airports, click on the interactive map and then select an airline from the drop down box to see their route map. To see a list of which airlines fly to a particular airport, just click on the airport name on the map. For example, it will show you that Sydney is served by 8 Star Alliance carriers (Air Canada, Air China, Air New Zealand, Asiana, Singapore, South African, Thai and United).
  • To check Star Alliance award availability, use the ANA Tool, continental.com (SaverPass availability) or aeroplan.com.
  • Even if you find availability on other sites, you will only be able to book what the phone agent says is available. It can be completely frustrating, but sometimes US Airways’ systems are not 100% synced to other Star Alliance’s systems, especially when it comes to Lufthansa and Swiss First Class awards.
  • If you feel like you have an inexperienced agent who doesn’t know the rules, politely let them know that you have to go and thank them for their help. Hang up and call again and hope to get a smarter agent. I have been using this technique for years. If you yell at an agent or sound like you are trying to scam them, they will notate your record/account and you don’t want that to happen. Kill them with kindness, even if your blood pressure is boiling!
  • Agents used to allow “round the world” routing. For example US to Asia via Europe and then home across the Pacific. Generally agents won’t allow this anymore, but you may get one to ticket such an award, especially if you act like you aren’t trying to game the system. Frankly, they only know if it’s an around the world if their geography is up to par.
This Flyertalk threadhas loads of information on booking Star Alliance using Dividend Miles, so I suggest starting with the most recent and working your way back to see the types of award people have booked. In a nutshell, US Airways agents can be very lenient, so you can really juice a lot out of the awards you create – it just takes some research and persistence.
US Airways has a pretty generous award chart, so once you master the art of booking a Star Alliance US award, you’ll realize why so many of us get excited when we see the US Airways 100% buy miles promotions (PS the current one ends June 30, 2011).

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phpaper 2011-6-17 07:44:11  | 显示全部楼层
谢谢分享,关于HUB那段很有用
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milaohu + 5 返利,呵呵

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myif 2011-6-17 08:08:13  | 显示全部楼层
phpaper 发表于 2011-6-17 07:44
谢谢分享,关于HUB那段很有用

但是us大妈的水准估计这个只能在执飞公司家的hub做stopover的规定不一定会很严格的执行

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phpaper 2011-6-17 10:11:51  | 显示全部楼层
myif 发表于 2011-6-17 08:08
但是us大妈的水准估计这个只能在执飞公司家的hub做stopover的规定不一定会很严格的执行

有时会执行。我们应该做最坏打算啊。毕竟打电话到美国,不容易啊,PS.那个US的等待音乐暴难听,而且有时候一等就等起码十分钟
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myif 2011-6-17 10:34:47  | 显示全部楼层
phpaper 发表于 2011-6-17 10:11
有时会执行。我们应该做最坏打算啊。毕竟打电话到美国,不容易啊,PS.那个US的等待音乐暴难听,而且有时候 ...

反正skype打美国800都是免费的,expedia是,usairways也是

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phpaper 2011-6-17 10:36:01  | 显示全部楼层
myif 发表于 2011-6-17 10:34
反正skype打美国800都是免费的,expedia是,usairways也是

我还没试过SKYPE,信号如何

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myif 2011-6-17 11:22:44  | 显示全部楼层
phpaper 发表于 2011-6-17 10:36
我还没试过SKYPE,信号如何

网络好,一切都好,现在上海换光纤了,感觉很顺滑

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phpaper 2011-6-17 11:23:40  | 显示全部楼层
myif 发表于 2011-6-17 11:22
网络好,一切都好,现在上海换光纤了,感觉很顺滑

改天试试,还要去买个耳麦才可以。

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myif 2011-6-17 11:24:41  | 显示全部楼层
phpaper 发表于 2011-6-17 11:23
改天试试,还要去买个耳麦才可以。

我都是用公司的小黑直接打的,不用耳麦,她听得清楚,我也听得清楚

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phpaper 2011-6-17 11:29:56  | 显示全部楼层
myif 发表于 2011-6-17 11:24
我都是用公司的小黑直接打的,不用耳麦,她听得清楚,我也听得清楚

小黑?IBM?我的MAC AIR不知道可以么

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myif 2011-6-17 11:35:52  | 显示全部楼层
phpaper 发表于 2011-6-17 11:29
小黑?IBM?我的MAC AIR不知道可以么

应该可以的吧,你设置一下扬声器之类的,就可以了

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phpaper 2011-6-17 11:40:54  | 显示全部楼层
myif 发表于 2011-6-17 11:35
应该可以的吧,你设置一下扬声器之类的,就可以了

哦,我去研究一下。我一般用CMCC的12593.还可以,清楚的很,收费也不贵,0.39一分钟把

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myif 2011-6-17 11:51:47  | 显示全部楼层
phpaper 发表于 2011-6-17 11:40
哦,我去研究一下。我一般用CMCC的12593.还可以,清楚的很,收费也不贵,0.39一分钟把

12593适合在本地,像我们出差多,在外面有的时候要找国外的人都用skype,不然太贵了


而且老美处理能力普遍低下,我以前找expedia做brg,最快的也要打上半小时,用skype免费的优势就出来了

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phpaper 2011-6-17 12:17:58  | 显示全部楼层
myif 发表于 2011-6-17 11:51
12593适合在本地,像我们出差多,在外面有的时候要找国外的人都用skype,不然太贵了

嗯,我不出差,所以用12593就OK,研究一下SKYPE,很容易上手啊

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myif 2011-6-17 12:28:05  | 显示全部楼层
phpaper 发表于 2011-6-17 12:17
嗯,我不出差,所以用12593就OK,研究一下SKYPE,很容易上手啊

是很容易啊,user friendly的公司最高

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Simon0902 2012-5-1 08:41:27  | 显示全部楼层
phpaper 发表于 2011-6-17 07:44
谢谢分享,关于HUB那段很有用

前两天刚出过,LX到PVG,stop,TG飞出~
感觉基本只要在HUB停问题都不大
Hyatt DD; SPG PPP; MR PP; A3 SSSS; CZ S; HH DS; IHG GG;

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phpaper 2012-5-1 13:10:00  | 显示全部楼层
Simon0902 发表于 2012-5-1 08:41
前两天刚出过,LX到PVG,stop,TG飞出~
感觉基本只要在HUB停问题都不大

的确,停HUB的通过率比较高

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laplace 2012-5-1 14:14:07  | 显示全部楼层
DUS 早就是lufthansa的hub了,官网早就这么宣称的

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Simon0902 2012-5-1 14:19:39  | 显示全部楼层
phpaper 发表于 2012-5-1 13:10
的确,停HUB的通过率比较高

不知道不停HUB过的可能性多大
Hyatt DD; SPG PPP; MR PP; A3 SSSS; CZ S; HH DS; IHG GG;

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phpaper 2012-5-1 23:01:42  | 显示全部楼层
Simon0902 发表于 2012-5-1 14:19
不知道不停HUB过的可能性多大

看RP,成功率小于30%

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zupo 2012-6-21 10:34:49  | 显示全部楼层
管用,做个马克

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SHANGHAIMU 2012-6-21 17:47:03  | 显示全部楼层
phpaper 发表于 2011-6-17 10:11
有时会执行。我们应该做最坏打算啊。毕竟打电话到美国,不容易啊,PS.那个US的等待音乐暴难听,而且有时候 ...

比如换SA其他公司 不可以在HKG stopover吗?
间歇性人格分裂及轻度幻想综合症

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phpaper 2012-6-21 22:02:11  | 显示全部楼层
SHANGHAIMU 发表于 2012-6-21 17:47
比如换SA其他公司 不可以在HKG stopover吗?

可以忽悠一下

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ndep 2012-6-22 08:14:03  | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 ndep 于 2012-6-22 08:18 编辑
phpaper 发表于 2011-6-17 11:29
小黑?IBM?我的MAC AIR不知道可以么


我都是蓝牙耳机+ipad/iphone 打skype, 安逸的很。

另外,如果要用 air 打,最好找个 skype 英文版,别用坑爹的中文 Tom 版。

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szposeidon 2012-7-19 22:12:18  | 显示全部楼层
good
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